Hopeless in New York




Roslyn Club’s Indoor Range in Westbury

With some time to sightsee yesterday, I stopped by Roslyn Rifle and Revolver Club’s indoor range at 1130 Broadway, Westbury, NY 11590. A small bore competition was preparing to start so I only stayed long enough to get the Bullseye pistol person’s contact information.

But after some checking of the state laws, it appears to be totally impossible for an out of state shooter to compete anywhwere in New York.

  • Residents must obtain a permit for each and every handgun from the county in which they live.
  • The permit which must be carried lists each such handgun.
  • It is illegal for a person to touch any (loaded?) gun not on his permit.
  • And non-residents are generally not allowed to obtain such permits.

Basically this means that out-of-state residents may not legally bring their guns into the state for Bullseye competitions, nor can they obtain a New York permit for their handguns owned legally in some other state.

Although some states allow out-of-state residents to legally travel into and compete in their states, this does not appear to be the case in New York.

So even though the Roslyn club has a very active Bullseye league that shoots on a regular basis, shooting is restricted to permit holders within the state of New York.

Unless you wish to risk confiscation of your handguns, incarceration, fines and fees to lawyers to get your guns and yourself out of the slammer, it appears the rule for New York state is “No visitors, or moochers, allowed on the pistol ranges.”




Soaking Up the Rays

So I went and tried to enjoy the beach.

But that wasn’t very enjoyable either.

Bummer!

4 thoughts on “Hopeless in New York

  1. Unbelievable. Did I understand that a club member can’t even lend you one to use at the match?

    Well, maybe someone could lend you a decent air pistol and you could still get in on the fun…assuming even that’s legal!
    -Randon

  2. Ed,
    You can shoot in NY at NRA sanctioned events. Section 265.20 (13) reads:

    “Possession of pistols and revolvers by a person who is a nonresident of this state while attending or traveling to or from, an organized competitive pistol match or league competition under auspices of, or approved by, the National Rifle Association and in which he is a competitor, within forty-eight hours of such event … provided that he has not been previously convicted of a felony … and further provided that the pistols or revolvers are transported unloaded in a locked opaque container together with a copy of the match program, match schedule or match registration card. Such documentation shall constitute prima facie evidence of exemption, providing that such person also has in his possession a pistol license or firearms registration card issued in accordance with the laws of his place of residence.

    There are a couple of other exceptions as well.

    BTW, as a new bullseye shooter myself, I like your blog.

  3. Thanks, Joe G. I hope you enjoy Bullseye as much as I do.

    The part of NY’s law that still makes me nervous is this, “providing that such person also has in his possession a pistol license or firearms registration card issued in accordance with the laws of his place of residence” because my state, Arizona issues not such license or registration card. Presumably without that card I’m still OK because AZ doesn’t issue one but if the local LEOs choose to differ in their interpretation, I’ll be the one whose guns (and self) are in the lockup. Let’s just say I’m being wary.
    But I have noticed that as one gets farther and farther away from “The City”, pistol sports *do* start up again. I have a cousin near Buffalo that shoots a lot and when I occasionally visit that area, I’m hopeful of lining up a competition with my travels.
    10s and Xs, Joe!

  4. Sorry you had such a bad time in NY, I was a 30+ year member of Roslyn, and feel bad you didn't tell about the good pistol programs they have. Roslyn and Long Island have more shooters in this Liberal, anti-gun state, than my state of Tennessee has in the entire state, with our firearms freedoms….
    I suggest you read up on gun laws when you travel..
    When I lived on Long Island I was a Cowboy shooter, we had lots of visitors from out of state, shoot our matches….
    I never felt I was being held back from my shooting interests.
    Most of the people who live n New York, do not even know the laws..
    Do you know that New York still has shooting as a High School Sport!!

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